Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby dmitri » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:42 pm

CharlySombreCoeur wrote:The CC reduction Parameter seems to be not enough in level 3. For pressing the pedal by the top, I get something like 80 CC messages. And the problem occurs when I am in the frontier of two steps.

I will need a device (mock or real) to test this behavior and possibly come up with a solution.

I checked again, about chick note. And it is Megadrum that send the note when the pedal reaches low level. There is no way to manage this in SD2.

Then just use the MegaDrum built-in Chick.
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby CharlySombreCoeur » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:48 pm

Then just use the MegaDrum built-in Chick.


Of course; but I am still stuck with the chick strengt problem. I have to press Hard to get the chick, due to the Tight Closed step in velocity 0.
I really would like to set chick note send before velocity 0 ( should be velocity 11 in my case, Closed step).
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby dmitri » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:23 pm

CharlySombreCoeur wrote:
Then just use the MegaDrum built-in Chick.


Of course; but I am still stuck with the chick strengt problem. I have to press Hard to get the chick, due to the Tight Closed step in velocity 0.
I really would like to set chick note send before velocity 0 ( should be velocity 11 in my case, Closed step).

Can't SD be configured to recognize Tight Closed to be at a different level?
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby CharlySombreCoeur » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:43 pm

Can't SD be configured to recognize Tight Closed to be at a different level?


Yes, but I lose Tight closed step, that is really interesting to get hard closed sound. And so I lose a step in my controller.
The best way to get "natural" feeling with this hihat, is to get chick sound at closed step (V10/V20), and Tight closed sound at Hard Pressed Pedal (V0).
This step seems to be an End switch in the controller, hard to press, that cut all electric signal. But I am not aware of electric stuffs !
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby dmitri » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:46 pm

I will think about this feature.
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby CharlySombreCoeur » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:20 pm

With all I have talk with you, and with all discussions to get the Megadrum set properly, I can say I am very happy to have bought you Megadrum Module. And you do a very nice work.

I don't think it is the right place to that, but now I sell my DTXtreme IIs Module ! If someone is interested ...


Dmitri, what is the best hihat you get from now ? It is better with continuous pot, or stepped resistors ?
Did you already used Tight closed function on any hat ?

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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby dmitri » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:49 pm

CharlySombreCoeur wrote:Dmitri, what is the best hihat you get from now ? It is better with continuous pot, or stepped resistors ?

The best design I've tested myself so far is a DIY optical variable pedal. Some say a DIY pedal with a Hall sensor is just as good or even better. I've also tested stepped/variable Roland/Yamaha pedals and simple(switch) on/off pedals. The advantage of optical/Hall sensor designs is that they don't have wearable parts, don't introduce noise due to sliding contacts or switches bounces (which you may be experiencing with your pedal generating a lot of CC messages) and precise. And they are very simple at that.

Did you already used Tight closed function on any hat ?

No, but I heard about it.
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby CharlySombreCoeur » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:18 am

Hi !

I did set my Yamaha Dtxtreme IIs Kit; I wanted to share the .mds file but it is not allowed !?

It has been a hard work; I had to make my own velocity curves to match the pads sensibility.
Unfortunatelly, those settings won't work perfectly even on the same kit than me, because two same pads have very different response. For exemple, my 4 toms TP100 have different settings and velocity curves.

Now is the RHH 130 Hihat that don't work perfectly, as I said before, because of misplaced chick and too many CC messages. Sometime, a full open CC message is sent, only one, but I am moving the pedal closed (maybe a bad electronic on the controller). But it gives me an unexpected full open hat sound !

All that said, I am very happy to have done all this work. I learned, I fought, and I succeded !
Now I can play drums again.

Thanks Dmitri.

Should I send you the MDS file, so you can share it with ANGR77, to fill his database ?
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby dmitri » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:36 am

You ca share you .mds files (zipped) right here.
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Re: Yamaha DTXtreme IIs Kit to set up. Help !!!

Postby CharlySombreCoeur » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:05 am

Ok; so here it is !

If someone find something wrong, tell me !
I am not a specialist still.

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